Responding to Astrid

Astrid,

On Facebook you wonder when the LGBT peeps will stop embarrassing themselves about this stuff. I wonder, in return, who is embarrassed? I see anger, I see mobilization, I see resentment, but I do not see embarrassment.

I think I did a very good job of writing many caveats into my initial post. See my acknowledgement of "base racistness" or of a strong Id or of the unhealthiness of these sentiments. Whether they are unhealthy or not, however, they are real. They are real. Acknowledging such feelings is the only way not to act upon them. On the other hand, acknowledging reality is the only way to change it. I will not accept hyper liberal or PC positions that do not allow you to point out reality just because reality exposes racial differences.

I agree with you that the No-on-8 campaign was "shitastic." It was run by the HRC pussies who hate themselves as much as their opponents do. They had all sorts of rules--don't mention the word gay. Don't mention the word marriage. Don't mention the word constitution. They're pussies who do not trust people to accept them when they are real, because they do not and cannot accept themselves.

Along with being shitastic, you state that the campaign was completely white-centered. You're probably right. Why is that, though? Why were non-whites not involved in the campaign as much as they could/should have been? Why was the campaign not adequately targeted at non-whites?

There is alot of history to this. Who was there in the 80's? Who was demonstrating with ActUp and lobbying congress or storming meetings? Who was there at Independence Hall in Philadelphia in 1965? Who has been suing for full marriage equality? The whites. This is a major problem. There is alot of racism in this community, on both sides. People need to be able to better work together, and non-white people need to do a more visible job of being out and demanding rights.

Your hyperbolic statement accusing me of telling people to move to the back of the bus is absolutely ridiculous. Mormons and black people and 52% of Californians told L-G people to move to the back of the bus, told them that they are less important than chickens, told them that their full humanity should be denied. That is the reality and we have the right to be angry and resentful and point out reality. If my caveats were not clear enough, that's my fault, but your response made no attempt to consider them.